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I am loving this!  I am also in a dilemma and I’d like to get y’alls input.  God made me an analytical type guy.  I love every post and comment and want to address each one and develop dialogue on each point and ESPECIALLY each question.  I feel bad when I see soooo many good points being made and want to comment on each.  Then when I see such deep heartfelt questions, I wanna stop the blog and camp out right there!

Is it just me that is troubled? I hate to see anyone miss out on this fellership.Does anyone have a suggestion how we can do this better? Do we have some experienced “bloggers” among us? I know this isn’t a “spiritual” matter but it is a “Martha” kinda thang 🙄 . How can we best SERVE one another in this setting?

Let’s use *this* blog window/topic and try an experiment

How about y’all pick some subjects/topics that you’d like to discuss and get further input from others on.  Click on comments and add it to the list.  I’ve started it off with a few of my own in the comments already.  After all … This Blog is for YOU!



August 31, 2006 - Posted by | Uncategorized


  1. I got a post from a dear bro..the first real Christian (outside my “in the camp” upbringing) who really made an impact on my life (and he still does). He wrote this:

    “When I first began to walk in the Lord I discovered a method of teaching that the Holy Spirit used in my life and this method continues on today. When the Lord reveals truth to us He does not mind and in fact enjoys having this truth held up to His light in order for its testing to produce enduring steadfastness in Him. This testing almost always comes by way of someone having a different view of scripture or what we commonly call doctrine.”

    This fellership blog is a great way for us to practice this very thing. Here’s a few examples of topics we can “stretch” each other with in dialogue.

    God’s nature . It’s some of those recyclable gifts like:
    more stuff about worship
    and the BIGGIE, God’s love


    When our faith (and mind) are stretched, it
    will never go back to its original shape.

    Comment by fellership | August 31, 2006 | Reply

  2. How do we “seek first the kingdom?” What does that mean in a practical sense?


    Comment by Alice | August 31, 2006 | Reply

  3. Oneness–

    Someone forwarded me a news story about the usual government persecution of Christian morals. Another recipient responded:
    “Let the Christians come more and more together to support the cause of Christ.”

    Someone asked me once, “How do you get people together to do this?”

    Indeed, how do you “get” people to do anything? I maintain that you can’t. But I ran across Robert Beecham’s article “Assembling Together” and here it is from his site “Bible Studies for Growth in God” (though I couldn’t find it there when last I looked). Here is a short excerpt:

    When we go to church, we meet the other people who go to church. When we go to Jesus, we meet the other people who go to Jesus.

    Of course this agrees with what Jesus himself said. His words were: ‘Come to me’ – not ‘Go to church’. He also said, ‘where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.’ He is the meeting place. Again the Greek word for gathering together is sunagw.

    Now a parable. Once I saw a circle with myself and others on the circumference. I wanted to get closer to my brothers and sisters, and so I moved round the circumference in one direction. But as I got closer to some I got further away from others. When I reversed my direction it was no better. Again I got closer to some, but further away from others.

    So I gave up, and stopped trying to get closer to my brothers and sisters, and instead moved towards the centre of the circle, and others did the same. And what do you think happened? We all got closer to each other. And who do you think was at the centre of the circle? The same one who said, ‘Come to me.’

    Comment by Kat | August 31, 2006 | Reply

  4. Wow, that is so good Kat. Let’s all go to the CENTER! Christ is the preeminent one that draws us all closer to the Father. That’s why He came (Jn. 17)!

    Comment by fellership | August 31, 2006 | Reply

  5. I felt a bit embarrassed after posting that. It’s REALLY long winded…

    Must tell you that I felt to change up what I was doing on my own blog…For about three years I have gone through so many sleepless nights…nearly asleep, waking up two or three times before dozing off because the Lord would show me things and I’d have to write them down so as not to forget. Then going to sleep, agonizing over something in prayer, praying in my dreams, waking to find myself actually still praying.

    Then a few weeks ago all was peace. I wondered, “What next?” The things written down were for me as much as for anyone else. I go there to remind myself of things… In the end, it came down to, “You know My will in all things now. You know what you need to know. Now go and live it.”

    At that moment, I felt released to live my life again without fear that I might “get off” or that I will miss God somehow. What does He require of us but that we lose our lives for His sake. And what must we ever bear in mind through the ups and downs of our faulty understanding but that everything touching us happens according to “the will of God in Christ Jesus” concerning us.

    You know, darkness is a terrible thing to live through. It is not the will of God that any of us should walk in darkness. But if that is what it takes to bring us into Christ, then it is His will “according to Christ”. I pray that I will be brought to the place of dying on demand for Him–that it will not take episodes of misery and agony any longer to lay my life down that He may pick me up.

    When you begin to see the overarching goodness of God in all that comes to you, there is an expectation rather than a dread of the wonders He is preparing. Things that once made us miserable begin to bring us joy, because they are not an end but a beginning.

    If we all lose our lives for His sake together for the joy set before us, will we also partake of the joy of His kingdom together? That is a good thought, is it not? Let us all draw near to Him, keeping that end in mind.

    Comment by Kat | August 31, 2006 | Reply

  6. P.S. Charlie, it sounds as if you are wanting to find ways of doing more spontaneous question/answer/comments. There is one more thing you might consider–a message board like the one where Gary and I met at ezboard.com. It’s free and you can control who gets in to see the wizard, so to speak, if you want.

    If you don’t want to make it wide open to the general gazing public, you could use this blog as a point of entry to a message board and then approve ezboard members individually.

    Comment by Kat | August 31, 2006 | Reply

  7. Folks,

    I keep seeing phrases like, “the Holy Spirit taught me” and, “led by the Holy Spirit to……”.

    I would like to see some discussion on this. Just what do you mean by the Holy Spirit taught me? Did you get a message directly from the Holy Spirit? How do you know? How are you led by the Holy Spirit? Is there a path that the Holy Spirit pushes you down? How do you know?

    I see a lot of things attributed to the Holy Spirit, but I don’t know exactly how these things are done by the Holy Spirit. I think more in depth discussion on this subject would help me greatly.

    Comment by mrzerog | August 31, 2006 | Reply

  8. Kat your circle dream was one of those times God gives a lingering look into His things. I’ve also had seasons like you described such as praying in my sleep all night long. Have you ever awaken knowing that you understood some aspect of life in Christ and could not remember it nor explain it? I once had an experience while with a group of students during a discussion in which I believe God gave me a glimpse into the truth of what we were discussing. In a nano-second I had grapsed it and then it was gone. I was left knowing that I had known and that it must had been Holy Spirit that dropped in on me. I do wonder at times why God did not allow me to retain that info.

    I have a question. In your post #5 you used the word “darkness”. How do you define “darkness” within the context of your post. God bless you all.

    Comment by Ed | September 1, 2006 | Reply

  9. Kat, in response to #6 P.S., Alice is looking into this. Thank you for mentioning it. It may just be that I want things done MY way. I’d much rather hear what others think and feel about the way this blog is going and if we need to make any adjustments.

    Our soul does not want to submit to our spirit easily. Therein lies the battle, eh.

    Comment by fellership | September 1, 2006 | Reply

  10. Ed, by “darkness” I mean to say that we all go through seasons of blindness and wondering why nothing goes right. It is as if God no longer speaks and we cannot see the way before us. We seem, at such junctures, to be no better off than the wicked.

    “Darkness” is never God’s will for us, so why does He allow it? Because it is sometimes the only way we can be brought to the end of ourselves and into the experienced reality of the life of Christ. So in that sense, “darkness” becomes the “will of God IN CHRIST JESUS, concerning US”–but never the consummate “will of God”.

    It may seem to some that I am splitting hairs, but I will share something that I came to understand only a few weeks ago.

    When I was very, very young I made a pact with myself to pray every night that God would either change some uncontrollable things in my life or at least let me know before I died why they had to be that way. This manner of prayer went on for maybe 20+ years or so–maybe more.

    I used to ask Him why He couldn’t make things simple and just tell me what He was trying to get out of me. He never did. Then when I understood later how He had processed my life, it became clear that I would NOT have “gotten it” had He just told me what He wanted. Apparently, all that darkness and junk was necessary for the process of bringing me more surely into Christ.

    “He makes darkness His hiding place,” doesn’t it say? And yet God is the Father of lights with whom there is no shadow of turning. There can only be one purpose for darkness that I can see–and that is so we may recognize light.

    Comment by Kat | September 1, 2006 | Reply

  11. Kat thanks for the explanation. Now I know what you were communicating. I know from my own experiences I have written something one way and someone else read it another way. Thanks for sharing part of your journey. God bless you.

    Comment by Ed | September 1, 2006 | Reply

  12. Charlie,
    I concur with Kat on ezboard. If you’ve never seen or used it, you should check it out. I’m no blogging expert, but I did like the interaction available on ezboard.
    In regard to topics, one cutting edge of learning for my has been a greater understanding of the eternal purpose of God mentioned in Ephesians 3:11. What is God’s eternal purpose? I think many of us are at 1st grade in understanding it. I believe we should view and life with the end (God’s end,His purposes) in mind. If our vision and understanding is skewed, so will be our living.

    Comment by Gary | September 1, 2006 | Reply

  13. Bob, we will definitely do the Holy Spirit thang next. I’m looking forward to it and hope we can get lots of participation and new viewpoints on the subject.

    That was a HINT! 😉


    Comment by fellership | September 1, 2006 | Reply

  14. Alice asked: “How do we “seek first the kingdom?”

    What does that mean in a practical sense?

    I think we have to first know what the kingdom of God is before we can seek it. Jesus said that it was “within you.” I think this is a good start to a good question. I am going to look into this. I thought I knew more than I did on this subject, so for now I will leave it with the plan to look into it further.

    Alice…..would you happen to have anything else to add? I mean….I think the kingdom of God would have to reflect His nature. I think I know and have experienced something of His nature. I have quoted that verse many times, but must confess that I draw a blank. I’ll look more into it on my end and let you know if I find out anything.

    Comment by Randy | September 3, 2006 | Reply

  15. Randy,

    See if these verses speak anything to you:

    Dan 2:34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and broke them to pieces.
    Dan 2:35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

    Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

    Jesus did say the kingdom of God is within us–but I believe that he was speaking of believers in whom is the spirit of Christ. As I see it, the kingdom is made up of this supplanting spirit which fills us and then spreads out to fill all things in the earth.

    Comment by Kat | September 4, 2006 | Reply

  16. Hey Randy – great to see you here.

    There are 2 reasons why I asked the question about seeking first the Kingdom.

    1. I don’t know the answer.
    2. I think that if we were to all share our various ideas – they would all be pieces of the puzzle of correctness. They would all be right – yet could be more complete.

    I’d love to hear what everyone else thinks about it.

    Love ya,

    Comment by Alice | September 4, 2006 | Reply

  17. I’m looking forward to hearing more about this kingdom thang myself. I know that there are several aspects of the kingdom in scripture. The kingdom is within us, and there is also an outward manifestation of God’s kingdom as a witness to the nations.

    But I think the main thing Alice is bringing up is not the kingdom on all these different levels, but just how do we seek the kingdom first in a practical way. Understanding what the kingdom is can be important, but what are some practical ways to seek the kingdom?

    The kingdom of God is no doubt a faith walk too. So understanding will come as we grow and move forward in our journey. The key word here is FIRST. How do we break it down to simply the next step?


    Comment by fellership | September 5, 2006 | Reply

  18. I wanna add two new topics to the list. I’d like to hear other’s thoughts on “outside the camp” based on Heb. 13:11-13 and “new wine in old wine skins” based on Matt. 9:17, Mk. 2:22, Lk. 5:37-38.

    Charlie – PS for what it’s worth, if you’d like to know some of my viewpoints you can check out these URLs


    Comment by fellership | September 5, 2006 | Reply

  19. hmmm…

    I’m a thinkin on this stuff. Thanks for the direction Kat. I’ll certainly be lookin at those verses (I wrote em down). Good insight/good verses. I could be mistaken, but as I look at the verses you listed, I then think of it in terms of government. I suppose in this case, “God’s Government.” Am I off with that thought??? Am I close? Do you have more input/insight on that one?

    Charlie….you are probably right here. I probably misunderstood the question. I’ll re-read it again. Sometimes I read more into what someone is saying/asking than what is really there. I would however be interested to hear what Kat, yourself and some others have to say about it. I think I am going to enjoy this bloggin stuff.


    Comment by randy | September 5, 2006 | Reply

  20. Randy~

    I used to think as you do–that “kingdom” had mainly to do with government. But if government does not begin in His members, where DOES it begin? And is it merely the imposition of that “rod of iron” that governs the nations in Revelation? or is it also internal whereby we do by nature the things that please God because the law of God is written in our hearts? Have to think on that one a bit…

    Back to Alice’s original question~

    How do we seek the kingdom of God? I wasn’t sure how to answer that at first, but what is a kingdom without a king? I had something vaguely in mind like these scriptures:

    Joh 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
    Joh 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
    Joh 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
    Joh 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
    Joh 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

    Notice that if we eat Jesus, we live by Him. I don’t know if my explanation will do it justice, but the more I eat of Jesus, the more He has rule in my members. I am coming into His kingdom in this manner. Both the death-giving element (to my flesh) and the life-giving element (to my spirit and soul-life) are contained in the Person of Christ who is our Bread. The more I eat of Him, the more I die to myself.

    Look what Jesus says here:
    Mat 10:39 “He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.”

    The word He uses for “life” is “psuche”, the word for “soul” or, that is, the self-life/will. As we enter into the kingdom our will becomes more conformed to His. Notice how the saints in Revelation overcome the Adversary:

    Rev 12:11 “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives [PSUCHE] unto the death.”

    It appears that mastery over our own self-will is the main ingredient to entering into the kingdom. If our self remains unconquered, how can there be a spotless Bride?

    This is not a complete explanation by any means, but I hope it sparks some seeking.

    Comment by Kat | September 5, 2006 | Reply

  21. Hi Kat, I agree that God writes His laws/LOVE on/in our hearts and that is the kingdom.  I also agree that God is transforming us little by little into His image.  However, I wonder if He wants to “change” our soul OR be expressed in our soul just like it is.  Kat, I know you did not mention the word “change,” but I have known many that think/thought that was what was meant.  This idea of losing our life (psuche) can sometimes become the focus and objective, rather than God in us.  God made us the way we are with the soul (personality) just the way it is.  Now He wants to express Himself through that same soul, but with a renewed mind, broken will and submissive emotion, yet still the same soul.  I’ve known too many dear friends that literally gave their lives to be conformed to something that God wanted to use to express Himself through/with, but made it a contest of “overcomers” who “loved not their lives (psuche) unto death.”  I guess that word conform scares me from my past experiences…sorry :/. 

    But now, here’s a streeetching question: could it be that God will have others in His kingdom that do not have those laws/love written on their hearts?  Even further out…what if there are some in His earthly kingdom that do not have His indwelling Spirit but still get to live and participate in the kingdom?  They might need the “rod of iron” and more structured governmental side of the kingdom. 

    Just a thought :).  Another example of BOTH (possibly). 

    Comment by fellership | September 6, 2006 | Reply

  22. Charlie, you bring up some interesting points. I know that there are some who take the losing of the soul-life to mean “annihilation”, which is probably going too far. I cannot see that God ever intended our souls to be destroyed. They were designed by Him to remain forever. But you mention “change”. I had not even considered that one. Does he change our souls? Maybe not. The change comes from what influences our souls–either flesh or spirit.

    To your “streeetching question”–I do not know. But what is this?:

    Mat 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

    I have tended to believe that whatever does not conform to the kingdom gets left out of it. Maybe this is where some lose a metaphorical hand, foot or eye.

    Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

    A thought came to me this morning after sending you some notes last night. Can it be that we all dwell on different aspects because we have different specializations in the kingdom life? As I was praying about this last night, it occurred to me that I am at a juncture where the Lord has slowed down the specific speaking to me and given me the sense to go and live all that he has taught me. It has also struck me that I am suddenly more open to hearing things from outside the parameters of my own journey. Yet I deeply sense that I am not to abandon the “portion” the Lord has given. Can you envision that each of us has a portion that he has entrusted unto us and asked us to live out? We testify of that portion which we have received, and our lives testify of Christ. How does that strike you? Wow…is that off topic?

    Comment by Kat | September 6, 2006 | Reply

  23. I believe that God has placed a passion within us all. Each passion is an aspect (revelation) of Himself. No one is filled with all His passion, nor even near enough. We learn more about Him by listening and talking with one another as we each share our own particular passions (revelations.) That’s one reason the body is so essential.

    I believe even further, that most likely these passions within each of us are to a very far extreme. You know you have sensed this from someone when they begin talking about their insight on a subject – you often think “Wow – that’s a bit wild.” and it probably is. But in listening to them and cogitating a bit – comparing it with what is already in your mind on the subject – you are pulled a little closer the the Center than you existed before. When we get that from everyone we talk to – we are blessed to be pulled in many different ways.

    I have a couple of passions that most people kind of shake their heads when I mention them. I probably go way beyond common sense with them – but after hearing it – you might say – “Well, I can’t go THAT far – but I do see what you are talking about.” Between my passion and your ideas – God exists somewhere in between.

    We should give great praises to God for allowing us to hang out with many different types of folks. That’s a way religion misses it big time: churches are filled with folks of one doctrinal mind – one color – one financial setting – and the big talkers are generally of one age group. When are they ever stretched by differences?

    When are you allowed to see that a burly biker has a faith much deeper than yours? When can you find that a person who can’t read very well has had a wonderful revelation about a subject you have been struggling and studying with all your concordances, Greek text help and intelligent mind to understand? What about a person who is a new Christian and shares a question they have – and you find out you don’t know quite as much about it as you thought you did? That only comes from be blessed by people who are different than yourselves.

    “No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God’s approval.”

    To me that verse in 1 Corinthians speaks to this topic. Yes – there are differences among you – God made it that way. As you share them – My truth will become apparent.

    Now – that is one of my passions – one that not many people I know agree with. 🙂


    Comment by alice | September 6, 2006 | Reply

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  27. […] Discuss gaining a greater understanding of the eternal purpose of God mentioned in Ephesians 3:11. What is God’s eternal purpose?  Many of us are at 1st grade in understanding it.  We should view and live with the end (God’s end,His purposes) in mind.  If our vision and understanding is skewed, so will be our living {see Gary’s comment # 12 under HELP!! This Blog is for YOU! }. […]

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  28. Ouch! That’s a big change… But we’ll bear with you–it ain’t easy. Responding to both Charlie and Alice here~

    Charlie, I read you loud and clear on the overcoming “contest”. I’m convinced that it is another form of Phariseeism–even slavery. There is a book called Gus: A Nun’s Story about a lady who joined the Sisters of Charity (before Vatican II). I have met her on email.

    All through her story is the idea of “All for Jesus” no matter how difficult or miserable. She learned it as a doctrine and finally got out of the sisterhood after it became an unbearable bondage. It is not an anti-Catholic book, but she tells the good and the bad.

    Alice mentions “extremes” and the “center”. I THINK I get what she means–that our specific extremes come about because of our individual walk. As a generally centrist person by nature I don’t know that it’s always so simple as our ideas about the center (maybe I am misreading Alice). See, I’m thinking that God prefers cold or hot, but not lukewarm. Is he talking about the same thing? Doggoned if I know. Maybe someone else has an idea.

    When I think of life and death in Christ, I think of scriptures like this one:

    Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

    And to put it into a personal context as to my own extreme-ness, I simply came to a place where I was sick of my own life, refused to live it anymore and let Him live it for me. I needed to be delivered of myself. As to my soul-life (or “self-will” or “mind”), it became obvious to me that I had lost sobriety of mind. Father Jean-Pierre de Caussade once remarked that we are not in our right minds until we have returned to the mind of Christ. To me, that spelled losing my life that he might relieve me of it by living what I could no longer bear to live.

    You have probably noticed that every evangelist thinks everyone else should be an evangelist and every do-gooder thinks others should be do-gooders, etc. Quite possibly, some of the problem in my life was that I was surrounded by this type of people, but their message just wasn’t doing it for me.

    When I stumbled upon the reality of the life of Christ “accidentally”, it spoke to me when others began to open up what had happened to me. Initially, I had no teaching on it. In time I went from batting “0” to batting “1000” in my walk. It seemed good to go with what worked, that is the avenue the Lord used to open up the path of my walk. In fact, I believe in this way so strongly that I will walk this way even if all of Christendom deserts me. One cannot do otherwise, having been so convinced.

    God’s things are wonderful…his gifts without equal. But in the end, I was still bankrupt and just needed HIM. I found healing in the wounds (“cleft of the Rock”)of Christ–I found strength in weakness. My prayers began to be answered “Yes” and not “no” or “maybe” because I came to see something about the life in the Vine. When Jesus prays through us, the Father’s answer is always “yes”. When we pray out of ourselves, we never know for sure.

    I learned a solid lesson when I came to the end of my own rope and despaired of life–that I had no faith and no hope left…but there was Jesus and I felt His faith stirring with a life of its own. That was my first clue that our faith is not our own, but it belongs to Christ our life.

    In time I tended to grow complacent, but disaster struck every time I got into that mode (thank God!). It became a delight to follow this way and now I love it. That is just my own story, but I hope it gives some context.

    Am I “extreme” or have I actually found the true Center? Some people through Jesus was one crazy dude, but he was actually the only normal man who ever lived. Is this a fair comparison? I don’t know, to be honest. Maybe the answer is to go to God and ask. It’s not something I bother myself with, nor do I even feel I have “attained” to whatever’s in store. I just pick up and go on, remembering that I have no life but Christ or I will feel things I never want to feel again. 🙂

    Comment by Kat | September 6, 2006 | Reply

  29. Man, how do you follow something like this? Kat, I’m not sure I got all this but it sounds like you know what you’re saying :).

    I don’t see the center as lukewarm, but balanced. Maybe I’m missing sumpin. I hope others can help out with all this.

    This is my dream for all this bloggin. Hearing all the far extremes on both sides, in the middle and seeing God in all of it! How can anyone argue with someone’s experience? All we can say is either, “I’ve been there,” “I think I get it” or “huh??” It’s good to be somewhere in that mix..is that center?

    We can all learn from one another. I hope this blog is providing that opportunity for us all.

    Thanks for all those who have written. I know there are more who are reading and have not shared yet. That’s OK too, but I know we all have a portion God has given. May each share in their own time to encourage us all. That’s the main purpose of coming together, whether physically or cyberly, to encourage one another with what God has given and done.


    Comment by fellership | September 6, 2006 | Reply

  30. Thanks for putting up with my weirdness, Charlie. I certainly can’t use my own experience as a litmus test for others. It’s simply what happened in my case. Hopefully some others will share. You can be sure that even though many do not post, some are benefiting from our sharing. E-mails to my own blog site would confirm this.

    Comment by Kat | September 6, 2006 | Reply

  31. In response to Kat on comment #22
    When I spoke of soul “changes,” I was talking about a certain “teaching” that went around that God wanted to change us and make us all the same, which is conformity in my mind. If you are hot tempered, God wants to change you to be mild mannered. If you are shy, God wants to make you bold. If you are bold, God wants to tone you down. I just really don’t see it that way.

    God expresses Himself in us, via our soul…”bless the Lord oh my soul…” It seems to me religion and in particular organized Christianity is wanting to crank out “like minded” or more accurately, “like doctrinally minded” people. That’s the whole reason for denominations. Hang out with those YOU agree with. Go to the “church” of YOUR choice.

    I think this is what Alice is saying. Where can you find a place where bikers, and bankers are both accepted equally? In fact, where you can find a place where anyone/everyone is free to express themselves as they are? Or even to be able to ask a question? Who can even challenge the pulpiteer? Where did the pulpit idea come from? How does that even fit into ICor.12-14?

    Whoa..I need to slow down :). Anyway, I just believe God made us like we are and He is glorified in expressing Himself in the diversity of the body of Christ more than in the “conformity” of Christ’s body.

    Charlie – out on a limb (again)

    Comment by fellership | September 6, 2006 | Reply

  32. #30 from Kat: Don’t worry about weirdness. I’m the king of such :). Sometimes it’s good to be king 😉


    Comment by fellership | September 6, 2006 | Reply

  33. […] Alice will have to bail us out again   .Let’s continue our fellership with these topic/doors in mind.  Should you like to introduce another topic to explore, just add it to the list being formulated under HELP!! This Blog is for YOU!  We can also continue fellership with any of the other topics in our archives also.Let’s just keep the fellership flowing!  CLICK BELOW FOR THE BLOG TOPICS AND COMMENTS ACCORDING TO THE MONTH THEY WERE WRITTEN AND ARCHIVED.   September 2006    August 2006    July 2006  […]

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  34. hi all

    Im really enjoying the dialogue , especially because it is so much in depth which is so much what I was wanting to get into and could not find anyone. But.. call me stupid… im confused. LOL. The door’s have me perplexed.I landed here for lack of knowing where i belong. !!!. Forgive my ignorance. Im lost. haha. I like the yahoo groups where the archives are in order and u can find anything easily . I know they are outdated but I still like them best as u can go back into messages and not miss any. easy. Anyway.. God bless you.. Gail

    Comment by Gail | September 6, 2006 | Reply

  35. Gail, I’m sorry about the door deal. I think the confusion is probably putting those links at the bottom to look into the archives. They are just so you can go back through all that has been written chronologically each month.

    There are 4 basic doors which were the 4 main topics we had been discussing. It was getting confusing TO ME in finding out who posted last and what topic and what comment they were referring to. I thought the 4 doors would simplify it so we could all go one of the doors and just sit around inside fellershipping about the title (name) on the door. It would be door to door fellership (instead of house to house). 🙂

    We are still looking for a better format. Hang in there with us a little longer. We feel your pain :).

    PS – thanks Gail for letting us know you like the dialogue, I do too. It’s fun and hopefully encouraging and helpful to see other perspectives. That’s the whole idea of this blog thang.

    Comment by fellership | September 7, 2006 | Reply

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